Can Bioware Montreal Never Make Games Again
| SofNascimento Games: Mass Outcome Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire inherit Male 1286 0 November eighteen, 2020 2:25:58 GMT ii,137 SofNascimento one,316 Aug 27, 2016 13:51:04 GMT August 2016 sofnascimento Mass Event Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Historic period two, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire | Post by SofNascimento on Aug 20, 2017 i:07:02 GMTThe "Andromeda Initiative" never made sense. It was a huge, major retcon and so Bioware could get a fresh kickoff and do a soft reboot... withal that soft reboot has failed and has already been dropped. I wonder then, when yous play the original trilogy, the true Mass Effect, will you consider Andromeda canon or play it equally it was meant to be? |
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| antmarch456 #ThankYouMassEffect Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda XBL Gamertag: whereisantonio inherit Male 2890 0 Nov 9, 2018 8:42:54 GMT 816 antmarch456 #ThankYouMassEffect 318 Jan 19, 2017 9:41:02 GMT January 2017 antmarch456 Mass Upshot Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, Dragon Historic period 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Consequence Andromeda whereisantonio | Post past antmarch456 on Aug 20, 2017 1:twenty:55 GMT"WE Tin can Accept NOW THAT ANDROMDA WAS A FAILURE." Sorry, but personally I'chiliad not part of this "nosotros", because I didn't retrieve it was a failure. |
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| inherit Male 424 0 May thirteen, 2022 7:58:fifteen GMT v,936 Andrew Waples 3,861 Aug 3, 2016 2:26:48 GMT August 2016 andrewwaples1 eaglefan129 | Post by Andrew Waples on Aug twenty, 2017 1:22:43 GMTBioWare considers it as catechism until they say otherwise. |
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| suikoden Games: Mass Consequence Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, Baldur's Gate inherit Male 5045 0 Feb 27, 2019 21:49:30 GMT 1,574 suikoden 1,692 Mar xix, 2017 9:53:26 GMT March 2017 suikoden Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Baldur'southward Gate | Postal service past suikoden on Aug xx, 2017 1:25:15 GMT "WE Can ACCEPT NOW THAT ANDROMDA WAS A FAILURE." Sorry, but personally I'grand not part of this "we", because I didn't think it was a failure. Andromeda... one) Resulted in an entire studio beingness shuttered. Bioware Montreal will never make another game again. How can that not exist considered a failure? You can however like something on a personal level and accept it be a failure. |
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| ShadowAngel #more Asari Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Historic period 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Jade Empire, Mass Event Andromeda XBL Gamertag: UEG ShadowAngel inherit Male person 5079 0 May 13, 2022 1:21:05 GMT 1,692 ShadowAngel #more than Asari one,514 Mar 19, 2017 16:14:51 GMT March 2017 uegshadowangel Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Historic period Inquistion, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda UEG ShadowAngel | Mail service by ShadowAngel on Aug 20, 2017 i:25:38 GMTAndromeda doesn't be to me catechism wise, has nix to exercise with it being good or bad but with then many things that make no sense. How do nosotros become there? There really isn't any tech to practise that previously but at present at that place is? What of the biotic display on the Asari Ark? Did they just get super charged to shield an Unabridged ship? Andromeda plays around style to much with Lore for it to be serious canon to me. |
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| Daft Arbiter Wealth beyond measure, Outlander. Games: Mass Result Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age ii, KOTOR Origin: dasriboflavin inherit Male 815 0 Mar 14, 2019 21:55:38 GMT 325 Daft Czar Wealth beyond measure, Outlander. 275 Aug viii, 2016 22:38:xix GMT August 2016 daftarbiter Mass Consequence Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR dasriboflavin | Mail service by Daft Czar on Aug 20, 2017 1:27:48 GMTWhy wouldn't it be catechism? It doesn't matter what some random person considers it to be, information technology only matters what the Bioware's loremasters have to say on the field of study. If Bioware released a short where Female Commander Shepard dances the Charleston on the graves of her dead squadmates while wearing a sailor suit, and says "This is the catechism of Mass Effect," boom, that's information technology. It'south catechism, no bones most it. Doesn't matter if you similar it or you hate it. It happened, it'due south real, that's all. I accept never played Andromeda and even so, I would still treat it equally canon. Bioware'due south done naught to suggest otherwise. |
| SofNascimento Games: Mass Outcome Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, Dragon Historic period two, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur'south Gate, Jade Empire inherit Male 1286 0 Nov 18, 2020 2:25:58 GMT two,137 SofNascimento 1,316 Aug 27, 2016 13:51:04 GMT August 2016 sofnascimento Mass Upshot Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, Dragon Historic period two, Dragon Historic period Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur'due south Gate, Jade Empire | Post by SofNascimento on Aug 20, 2017 ane:32:10 GMT Bioware's loremasters That is Casey Hudson. And subsequently him Drew Karpyshyn. Neither worked in Andromeda. At to the lowest degree not in whatsoever meaning capacity. |
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| Saboru inherit Female 2094 0 Jul 27, 2019 22:41:47 GMT 261 Saboru 167 N2 Nov 15, 2016 ii:26:06 GMT November 2016 cyclamen | Post by Saboru on Aug xx, 2017 ane:32:17 GMT The "Andromeda Initiative" never made sense. It was a huge, major retcon so Bioware could get a fresh start and do a soft reboot... nonetheless that soft reboot has failed and has already been dropped. I wonder then, when y'all play the original trilogy, the true Mass Outcome, will you lot consider Andromeda canon or play it as it was meant to be? Welcome to the wonderful world of scifi fandom, permit me tell you of our ways. You don't become to driblet things because they're non successful, make no sense, contradict what has gone before, are universally hated or are just plain insane. And this game doesn't even tick most of those categories. Nope, you lot have to alive with it, comprise it and if necessary create a multiverse or alternate timeline so you can pretend it took place elsewhere and go along with the story as you wish information technology had happened. You used to be able to concord to never speak of information technology once more, but and so nosotros got the net, and then that's buggered. Pitiful, them'southward the rules. |
| sageoflife Games: Mass Consequence Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age two, Dragon Historic period Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda inherit Male person 1274 0 Aug 27, 2016 three:21:09 GMT 2,984 sageoflife i,390 Aug 27, 2016 3:16:54 GMT August 2016 sageoflife Mass Event Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Historic period 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda | Mail by sageoflife on Aug twenty, 2017 1:32:22 GMTNo, we tin can non all accept that it'southward a failure. Despite the bad printing information technology got over inane issues, enough of people enjoyed information technology and all evidence points to information technology existence a fiscal success, although non equally potent a success equally was expected. |
| suikoden Games: Mass Result Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Baldur's Gate inherit Male 5045 0 Feb 27, 2019 21:49:30 GMT i,574 suikoden 1,692 Mar 19, 2017 9:53:26 GMT March 2017 suikoden Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Baldur'southward Gate | Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 1:36:43 GMT The "Andromeda Initiative" never made sense. It was a huge, major retcon and then Bioware could get a fresh start and do a soft reboot... however that soft reboot has failed and has already been dropped. I wonder and then, when yous play the original trilogy, the true Mass Effect, will you consider Andromeda catechism or play information technology as information technology was meant to be? Welcome to the wonderful world of scifi fandom, let me tell y'all of our ways. You don't get to driblet things considering they're not successful, make no sense, contradict what has gone before, are universally hated or are just apparently insane. And this game doesn't even tick most of those categories. Nope, you have to live with it, incorporate it and if necessary create a multiverse or alternate timeline so you can pretend it took place elsewhere and keep with the story as yous wish it had happened. You lot used to be able to agree to never speak of it again, but then nosotros got the internet, and so that's buggered. Sorry, them'southward the rules. KOTOR ane-ii aren't catechism, and those were actually skilful games. Don't see why the same couldn't apply to a bad game like Andromeda. Knowing Bioware, they'll say something like "we'll leave it to the fans to translate whether or not Andromeda is canon" |
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| Monica21 Chaotic Skilful Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, Dragon Age two, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda inherit Female 4858 0 Sept 16, 2021 21:34:12 GMT ane,433 Monica21 Chaotic Good 586 Mar 17, 2017 nineteen:49:37 GMT March 2017 monica21 Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda | Post by Monica21 on Aug 20, 2017 1:38:36 GMT The "Andromeda Initiative" never made sense. It was a huge, major retcon so Bioware could get a fresh start and exercise a soft reboot... yet that soft reboot has failed and has already been dropped. I wonder so, when you play the original trilogy, the truthful Mass Issue, volition you lot consider Andromeda canon or play it as information technology was meant to be? What possible effect does it accept on the original trilogy to merits it is or it isn't? It literally has zero effect on gameplay or story. At what point am I going to pause in the heart of ME2 and think, "Hey, Skippy, this is when the arks were nigh finished. I'm at present going to do 10 instead of y." |
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| samhain444 Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Historic period two, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur'south Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda inherit Male person 7106 0 Dec eight, 2020 23:24:31 GMT 4,136 samhain444 1,669 Apr 5, 2017 16:58:35 GMT April 2017 samhain444 Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, Dragon Historic period two, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda | Mail service by samhain444 on Aug xx, 2017 1:38:51 GMTInformation technology'south canon unless BioWare says otherwise, it'southward their IP. |
| llandwynwyn Games: Mass Outcome Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire inherit Female 689 0 May 11, 2019 14:32:35 GMT 925 llandwynwyn 450 Aug half-dozen, 2016 19:10:33 GMT Baronial 2016 llandwynwyn Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire | Postal service by llandwynwyn on Aug 20, 2017 1:39:19 GMTInformation technology'southward canon unless BioWare retcons it or consider it AU. |
| bigbad Games: Mass Event Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age two, Dragon Historic period Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda inherit Male 236 0 Mar 3, 2021 15:01:54 GMT 675 bigbad 313 Aug 2, 2016 3:53:58 GMT August 2016 bigbad Mass Issue Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda | Mail service by bigbad on Aug 20, 2017 i:40:54 GMTI will non be expending any mental energy worrying nearly whether MEA is canon or not. What I probably will be doing is ignoring it on all subsequent Mass Effect playthroughs. |
| Daft Arbiter Wealth across measure, Outlander. Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age ii, KOTOR Origin: dasriboflavin inherit Male 815 0 Mar fourteen, 2019 21:55:38 GMT 325 Daft Arbiter Wealth across measure, Outlander. 275 Aug 8, 2016 22:38:xix GMT August 2016 daftarbiter Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Historic period ii, KOTOR dasriboflavin | Mail by Daft Arbiter on Aug 20, 2017 1:43:44 GMT Bioware'south loremasters That is Casey Hudson. And after him Drew Karpyshyn. Neither worked in Andromeda. At to the lowest degree not in any significant capacity. Then information technology'due south Casey's call, or Drew's, or whoever else with potency speaks on the field of study. They don't have to work on it though. As long as they say it's canon, then that'due south the end of information technology. |
| Saboru inherit Female person 2094 0 Jul 27, 2019 22:41:47 GMT 261 Saboru 167 N2 Nov xv, 2016 2:26:06 GMT Nov 2016 cyclamen | Post past Saboru on Aug 20, 2017 ane:45:55 GMT Welcome to the wonderful world of scifi fandom, let me tell you of our means. Y'all don't go to drop things because they're not successful, brand no sense, contradict what has gone earlier, are universally hated or are just plain insane. And this game doesn't even tick most of those categories. Nope, you have to live with it, contain it and if necessary create a multiverse or alternating timeline so y'all can pretend it took place elsewhere and continue with the story every bit y'all wish information technology had happened. Y'all used to be able to concur to never speak of it again, merely then we got the cyberspace, so that's buggered. Sad, them's the rules. KOTOR i-ii aren't catechism, and those were actually good games. Don't see why the same couldn't apply to a bad game like Andromeda. Knowing Bioware, they'll say something similar "nosotros'll exit it to the fans to interpret whether or not Andromeda is canon" Canon is a business decision. This was a question for the players. At that place's a reason I said fandom. |
| henkiedepost Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Result Andromeda Origin: HenkieDePost inherit Male 6375 0 Jul v, 2019 23:09:21 GMT 522 henkiedepost 325 Mar 27, 2017 23:02:35 GMT March 2017 henkiedepost Mass Result Trilogy, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda HenkieDePost | Post by henkiedepost on Aug 20, 2017 1:46:32 GMTHmmm. If we are going to get MEA2 information technology has to exist catechism for the setting to make sense. If the next game is set in the Milky way it doesn't actually matter. So it depends on the setting of the next game I guess. |
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| Monica21 Chaotic Skilful Games: Mass Event Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age two, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Issue Andromeda inherit Female person 4858 0 Sept 16, 2021 21:34:12 GMT 1,433 Monica21 Chaotic Good 586 Mar 17, 2017 19:49:37 GMT March 2017 monica21 Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda | Mail service by Monica21 on Aug twenty, 2017 1:47:50 GMTOkay, I'll enquire the question once more. At what bespeak in the OT does it fucking matter if there are arks being built? How could that possibly affect your gameplay? |
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| apocalypticham Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire Origin: ApocalypticHam inherit Female 7788 0 Jul 15, 2017 fifteen:12:25 GMT 163 apocalypticham 104 N2 April xviii, 2017 11:44:54 GMT Apr 2017 apocalypticham Mass Issue Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, Dragon Historic period 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire ApocalypticHam | Post by apocalypticham on Aug 20, 2017 i:54:45 GMT The "Andromeda Initiative" never made sense. Information technology was a huge, major retcon and so Bioware could become a fresh start and practice a soft reboot... still that soft reboot has failed and has already been dropped. I wonder then, when yous play the original trilogy, the true Mass Effect, will y'all consider Andromeda canon or play it equally information technology was meant to be? Welcome to the wonderful world of scifi fandom, let me tell you of our ways. You don't become to drop things considering they're non successful, brand no sense, contradict what has gone before, are universally hated or are but plain insane. And this game doesn't fifty-fifty tick about of those categories. Nope, y'all have to live with it, incorporate it and if necessary create a multiverse or alternate timeline then you lot can pretend it took place elsewhere and keep with the story as you wish it had happened. You lot used to be able to agree to never speak of it once again, but then nosotros got the net, so that's buggered. Sorry, them's the rules. I see Bioware and its fandom are heading into Marvel'south direction. Globe-156186415441531531864856, Earth-519854616486463156153156, Earth-4564561563156415616516516, etc. |
| alanc9 Sometime Scientist Contrarian inherit Male 3439 0 April 24, 2022 2:32:59 GMT 7,860 alanc9 Erstwhile Scientist Contrarian vii,442 February 7, 2017 19:42:52 GMT February 2017 alanc9 | Mail past alanc9 on Aug 20, 2017 1:55:36 GMT Welcome to the wonderful globe of scifi fandom, permit me tell you of our means. Y'all don't go to driblet things because they're not successful, make no sense, contradict what has gone earlier, are universally hated or are just plain insane. And this game doesn't even tick nigh of those categories. Nope, you have to live with it, incorporate it and if necessary create a multiverse or alternate timeline then yous can pretend it took place elsewhere and proceed with the story as you wish it had happened. You used to be able to agree to never speak of information technology again, but then we got the internet, so that's buggered. Sorry, them'due south the rules. KOTOR one-two aren't catechism, and those were actually expert games. Don't see why the aforementioned couldn't apply to a bad game like Andromeda. Knowing Bioware, they'll say something like "we'll go out it to the fans to interpret whether or not Andromeda is canon" This fits pretty well with Monica21'south point, really. If a hypothetical ME5 is gear up in the MW, ME:A just won't come. |
| SofNascimento Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Historic period 2, Dragon Historic period Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire inherit Male 1286 0 November eighteen, 2020 two:25:58 GMT two,137 SofNascimento one,316 Aug 27, 2016 13:51:04 GMT Baronial 2016 sofnascimento Mass Consequence Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur'south Gate, Jade Empire | Mail past SofNascimento on Aug xx, 2017 1:56:19 GMT That is Casey Hudson. And later him Drew Karpyshyn. Neither worked in Andromeda. At least not in whatsoever significant capacity. Then it's Casey's telephone call, or Drew's, or whoever else with authority speaks on the subject. They don't accept to work on it though. As long equally they say it's canon, then that'southward the end of it. Fair enough. But Casey Hudson never said Andromeda is canon. He had a minimal role in the game. |
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| inherit 1265 0 April 8, 2022 14:46:34 GMT one,655 isaidlunch 788 Aug 26, 2016 22:27:12 GMT August 2016 isaidlunch | Post by isaidlunch on Aug xx, 2017 1:56:54 GMTI don't give a lemon tree about "catechism", but I probably won't play it again and would rather re-play the trilogy. The thought of Ryder and co running effectually Andromeda while my Shepard is stopping the Reapers doesn't bother me. |
| Seera1024 Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Consequence Andromeda Origin: Seera1024 inherit Female person 5447 0 Nov 24, 2018 22:05:08 GMT 101 Seera1024 117 N2 Mar 22, 2017 2:17:05 GMT March 2017 seera1024 Mass Upshot Trilogy, Dragon Historic period: Origins, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Consequence Andromeda Seera1024 | Post by Seera1024 on Aug twenty, 2017 2:02:19 GMTOnly because a game doesn't get planned DLC or further updates doesn't hateful that it'southward a failure. But that it wasn't a huge success. Nosotros don't know the exact reasons why it was cancelled. Information technology could have been due to reshuffling of priorities due to the new director at Bioware. |
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